No indication of where a subtitle came from

[CLHatch]

I've noticed that if you have both internal and external subtitles, there is no way of knowing which is which. They both get the title of the video file. It should really tell me the exact filename (including extension, in case the external subtitle had the same base filename as the video file). Should be able to see the full path as well.

It would also be nice to be able to have it pull the name of the subtitle from a video file, if it has them.

[Coral]

You can use the freeware MediaInfo to check the movie details.
https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

[CLHatch]

You can use the freeware MediaInfo to check the movie details.
https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

You're missing the point. I need to know this info inside ConvertXtoDVD, so I know I'm removing the correct subtitles, or naming them correctly. And the "MediaInfo" does no help here... some of the subtitles aren't even IN the video files, some would be external subtitles, but there is no indication which is which inside your program.

I have MediaInfo, and use it, but this is not even close to a use-case scenario for that program.

[Coral]

some of the subtitles aren't even IN the video files, some would be external subtitles, but there is no indication which is which inside your program.

I have MediaInfo, and use it, but this is not even close to a use-case scenario for that program.

.....Then I'm not fully aware that your problem is.

[CLHatch]

some of the subtitles aren't even IN the video files, some would be external subtitles, but there is no indication which is which inside your program.

I have MediaInfo, and use it, but this is not even close to a use-case scenario for that program.

.....Then I'm not fully aware that your problem is.

Simple. You can test this yourself. Put a video with embedded subtitles into ConvertXtoDVD. Add an external subtitle. THEN, looking at the name of the subtitles in the list, tell me which subtitle is which? There is no way of knowing, is there? They both have the exact same filename listed.

I would actually call this a bug, btw. Obviously, the external subtitle should have the filename of the external subtitle file, NOT the video file.

[Coral]

Simple. You can test this yourself. Put a video with embedded subtitles into ConvertXtoDVD. Add an external subtitle. THEN, looking at the name of the subtitles in the list, tell me which subtitle is which? There is no way of knowing, is there? They both have the exact same filename listed.

I would actually call this a bug, btw. Obviously, the external subtitle should have the filename of the external subtitle file, NOT the video file.

OK. I'm with you now. This is something I have discussed with the person who was working on CX7 during alpha testing. If I remember correctly there is an order in which the name of the movie and the language must be written. But since I don't use subtitles all that much I forgot. Unfortunately the person has left VSO.

The way I do it is to first load the movie and check if it contains any subtitles. CX will show the languages. Then add those subtitle languages which have not been already included.

There are times when a subtitle which is included with the movie is not quite good and it would be worthwhile to exchange it with an external file. In that case I use MKVToolNix to remove the subtitle stream from the movie and use the external file.

[CLHatch]

Simple. You can test this yourself. Put a video with embedded subtitles into ConvertXtoDVD. Add an external subtitle. THEN, looking at the name of the subtitles in the list, tell me which subtitle is which? There is no way of knowing, is there? They both have the exact same filename listed.

I would actually call this a bug, btw. Obviously, the external subtitle should have the filename of the external subtitle file, NOT the video file.

OK. I'm with you now. This is something I have discussed with the person who was working on CX7 during alpha testing. If I remember correctly there is an order in which the name of the movie and the language must be written. But since I don't use subtitles all that much I forgot. Unfortunately the person has left VSO.

The way I do it is to first load the movie and check if it contains any subtitles. CX will show the languages. Then add those subtitle languages which have not been already included.

There are times when a subtitle which is included with the movie is not quite good and it would be worthwhile to exchange it with an external file. In that case I use MKVToolNix to remove the subtitle stream from the movie and use the external file.

I would think it would be a simple fix, really. It's not an issue with what is encoded on the DVD, it's an issue of what filename is displayed when viewing the list of subtitles in ConvertXtoDVD. It just needs to tell us the actual filename of the subtitle file, instead of the name of the video file. So if we have a title named "foo.mkv", and we add a subtitle file of "bar.srt", it should tell us that that subtitle comes from "bar.srt", NOT "foo.mkv", because it is not an embedded subtitle.

Best case, it would tell us the full path to said file also, really.

[Coral]

The subtitle file should have the same name of the movie file followed by the language. This is the standard procedure.
I don't know how complicated it would be to meet your request. But perhaps there could be some indication to distinguish between embedded subtitles an those from an external file. But don't hold your breath for a request. The good old days are gone. At least for the time being.

[CLHatch]

The subtitle file should have the same name of the movie file followed by the language. This is the standard procedure.
I don't know how complicated it would be to meet your request. But perhaps there could be some indication to distinguish between embedded subtitles an those from an external file. But don't hold your breath for a request. The good old days are gone. At least for the time being.

I'd have to disagree on what it should show, actually. What it should show in any sort of project, for ANY sort of application, would be the original sources for each item, whether that application is a word processor, desktop publishing system, graphical application, etc. When you are in a word processor, and add a graphics file, it tells you the name of that graphics file later, not the name of the word processor document, right?

I think you are forgetting about the difference between the source files, and the resulting output here. We should have the information for all the source files. Obviously that filename is still stored in the project, or it couldn't load the subtitle later when you open the project again.