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Encoding time

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Hi Everyone

i was just wondering if people could give some idea on encoding time/frame rates..

i have just converted one film took around 2.5 hours, the encode was set to best quality,BD25 and conversion priority was set at Normal, i was getting around 16FPS

i know it depends on film content etc, but just wanted an idea on what other people are getting.

Thanks

Pete
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You're right, conversion speed depends on a lot of things, so what other people experience isn't very helpful.

What I do is use short clips of different types of videos, maybe 10 minutes long (crop the video if necessary), and run tests with different settings, then compare results for quality differences if needed. The first thing you should check is that best quality setting, it makes conversions about 1/4 as fast as those without it and with no benefit that I have found.
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Thanks for the suggestions, the main reason I'm asking is I'm looking at a
New PC and wondered what other people were getting and what their PC set up was.

Pete.
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A fast CPU and adequate fast memory are most important. Maybe someone more qualified will see your post and help with specifics.
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I hope so, really want to get the best CPU as convertX is the
main program I use.

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Find Default Settings tab at the top scroll down to Video Processing now click it now look down at.

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1) Use h264 Hard ware Decoding (if possible)
2) Allow more then one hardware encoder/decoder instance
3) Use H264 hardware encoding (if possible)
There's a little box beside these 3 setting click on 3 if it'll let you and not grayed out.

Its the only way I could do anything with this program is with those settings.
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AMDFX wrote:Find Default Settings tab at the top scroll down to Video Processing now click it now look down at.

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1) Use h264 Hard ware Decoding (if possible)
2) Allow more then one hardware encoder/decoder instance
3) Use H264 hardware encoding (if possible)
There's a little box beside these 3 setting click on 3 if it'll let you and not grayed out.

Its the only way I could do anything with this program is with those settings.
Thanks, what processor do you have in your PC?

Pete
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peter7769 wrote:
AMDFX wrote:Find Default Settings tab at the top scroll down to Video Processing now click it now look down at.

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1) Use h264 Hard ware Decoding (if possible)
2) Allow more then one hardware encoder/decoder instance
3) Use H264 hardware encoding (if possible)
There's a little box beside these 3 setting click on 3 if it'll let you and not grayed out.

Its the only way I could do anything with this program is with those settings.
Thanks, what processor do you have in your PC?

Pete
AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 8-Core 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W, is what I have.

Make sure you clicked all (3) of those settings. In ConvertXtoHD I get 250 FPS. ConvertXtoDVD I get almost 500 FPS. It helps big time! :)
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I can't check the encoding option as its greyed out? But i can check the
Other two.

Pete.
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I'm looking at getting an i7 4790K so hopefully it would achieve those kind of figure's?

Pete.
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peter7769 wrote:I'm looking at getting an i7 4790K so hopefully it would achieve those kind of figure's?

Pete.

Do one video at a time, it helps less stress on your system, make convertxtohd queue everything but one. It does things faster that way. I can fit 17 videos on a 25GB Blu Ray.

I recommend, Intel Core i7-5820K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.3GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W, if you're encoding it will be a step ahead. But if you're really wanting to jump forward get this > Intel Core i7-5960X Haswell-E 8-Core 3.0GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W. Just remember AMD overclocks way better then Intel Chips, I've got my 8150 clocked at 4.02 Ghz and its a beast, even for being about 3 years old.
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Hi

I've got the choice of either i7 5930k 3.5GHz (15MB Cache) or i7 5820k 3.3 GHz (15MB Cache) or i7 5960x 3.0Hhz (20MB Cache) but i don't think i can stretch to the last one, but either of the other two would be better than the i7 for encoding then?

Thanks again for all your help

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peter7769 wrote:Hi

I've got the choice of either i7 5930k 3.5GHz (15MB Cache) or i7 5820k 3.3 GHz (15MB Cache) or i7 5960x 3.0Hhz (20MB Cache) but i don't think i can stretch to the last one, but either of the other two would be better than the i7 for encoding then?

Thanks again for all your help

Pete
Definitely get Intel Core i7-5930K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.5GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W. It has a higher Ghz and it's 6-Cores. More Core equals better encoding but harder over clocking. And Intel Chips do not like being over clocked. Just make sure you put a good after market fans on it. All you need is the push and pull 250mm fans I believe. I think the thermal compound you'll want is called Arctic Silver 5 or Prolimatech PRO-PK3-30G Nano Aluminum High-Grade Thermal Compound in 30 Gram. Just make sure you keep the CPU under 65c anything over will give it a short life.
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Your'e also going to need fast G-Skill Memory, you'll probably need DDR4 Sticks. Forgot and if you're building a PC get an SSD too.
Also a GeForce 970 or 980 Ti with 4 GB memory in the card would help you speed up a conversion too!
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Hi

Hopefully I'll try and post some specs up later at what I'm looking at, the only trouble
Is that I'm limited to what the company where I'm ordering it from is able to supply
I'm not confident enough to try to self build!

Pete.
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Intel has the pin's on the motherboard and not the chip please try not to bend those little pins. PM me if you need and if you would like to email me. I have very good knowledge of building rigs and windows issues. I'll be your tech support if needed.
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Hi
Here is what im looking at, what's your opinion?

Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM TROOPER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® X99-E WS: SOCKET 2011-V3, DDR4, USB 3.0, SATA 6 GB/s
Memory (RAM)
8GB CRUCIAL DDR4 2133MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 970 - 2 DVI, 1 HDMI, 1 DP - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk
500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
3rd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i GTX Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
2 x ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORTS
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Firewire
1 x IEEE 1394a FIREWIRE PORT ONBOARD
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 8.1 Professional 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
Windows 10 Upgrade
FREE Upgrade to Windows 10 with all Windows 7 & Windows 8.1 Purchases*
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 8.1 (64-bit) Professional DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
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Everything looks good just make sure you get a seaSonic power supply.

The main thing you want powerful is.

1) GPU - If possible get a Ti of what you would like.
2) RAM - Get the fast ram.
3) SSD - Pull out the middle man of hdd's and get a 1TB SSD. Regular hard drives are going to slow down your machine.
4) CPU - Get as many cores and GHz as you can.

additional advice. Don't use a butch of external usb devices, usb tends to fail when over-loaded, If you do end up getting a regular hard drive get a black edition with a big cache size. Make sure all of your case fans push at-least 2,000 rpm. If they're doing 500 or 600 rpm replace them as they will just gather heat in the case more. 3.1 usb is going to happen and I already see some board using it maybe try and get a board with 3.1 ports. Do not use too much thermal paste on your cpu just a couple drops and then coat it with an old plastic card. Always clean thermal paste with rubbing alcohol make sure you use a coffee filter when doing so. When installing after market fans be careful not to break the plastic clip screwing down to hard will crack them. Make sure if you have 4 sticks of memory that they're quad-channel. Don't over-clock unless you feel like you have to, same with flashing the bio's. Always make sure you update the firmware with Blu-ray burners.

Best Motherboards - ASUS
Best Ram - G-Skill
Best Video Cards - EVGA
Best Power supply - SeaSonic
Best Case in my option - Cooler Master
Best After market Fan - Cooler master
Best CPU's - Intel
Best Hard Drives - Seagate
Best SSD's - SamSung and SanDisk III
Best Fans - anything that will go over 2,000 rpm
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Almost forgot make sure you get a 650 watt power supply.
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I would like to add my personal experience. Overall, I am disappointed that ConvertXtoHD is taxing my system much more than what I had expected.

ASROCK X99 OC Formula
i7 5960X CPU
EVGA Nvidia 980 Superoverclocked
32GB GSKILL RAM
Samsung SM951 512GB M.2 drive.
1000watt EVGA 1000P2
This is the main hardware.

My current project is 46000MB Blu-Ray disk
Game of Thrones Season 1 with all 10 episodes.
5 title sets converting at one time (half of them)
Conversion priority "lowest". (crashed at "Highest")
After reading the forums, didn't "check" some of the feature that may not be so important or increase the performance.
Been at this project 45mins, says I have 1 hour 43 mins to go. Total time 2:30 hours or so.
I want to burn to 50GB blank Blu-Ray disk, so this burning is not included in the 2 1/2 hours.

If I select all 10 title sets + Highest priority, the converxtohd.exe crashes on me. So I scaled it back.

I have some serious hardware and expected to rip through big converting projects, but I needed to back off the settings.

Any big ideas to tweak to make me more efficient to go through the converting process?

fyi: system is not overclocked. Nothing running in the background.

edit: the above was my first 50GB Blu-Ray drive attempt and it was flawless. 9 hours, 40mins of 1080 crystal clear.
No coaster :)
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