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Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:52 pm
by JJ
That stretching might be due you selecting 16:9 instead of 4:3 - or even auto setting.
In DVD picture can be 4:3 or 16:9 and it has EXACTLY same resolution. Wrong setting there makes a lot of difference.
1080 is not stretched because there is no anamorphic selection in 1080.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:00 pm
by SomeoneElse
I selected 4:3. I already burned a second disc just to be sure I selected the proper one. It still stretched everything.

There are starting to seem to be so many issues that I wonder if it shouldn't have been released yet.

1. I was reading through the beta thread and some people were having various file types give error messages and some had bluray players that wouldn't even play their discs.

2. I am having this stretching issue.

3. Fast forwarding 1080 conversion content was slow and clunky and a lot of weird noise was at the bottom of the picture (I haven't checked yet to be sure it was only there when forwarding).

4. The file sizes and listed bitrates on converted files are very close to the same whether using short or medium project. There's no way it could fit double the amount of content with medium as it fits with short project if it's almost the same file sizes!

5. That issue where windows explorer and windows update stopped working temporarily and I got a bunch of access error messages from this program while that was happening.

Most customers may not even use 480 4:3 so maybe I am only a rare one affected by that, but those other issues are pretty bad. I want AT LEAST as good of quality as convertxtoDVD and use less discs, otherwise why even use this program?

Also I always used linear upsizing default in convertxtoDVD, but tried lanczos in this one. Maybe that led to some issues such as #3 above.

I am going to sue blu-rays if I ever get this to work properly, but I did not want to waste them testing, so I have tested with avchd format. I have no idea if that changes anything related to any of these issues.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:16 pm
by JJ
Sadly your reports of problems are almost completely useless without log files.
There is simply way too many settings and formats to use, and it is impossible to reproduce those problems without log.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:32 pm
by SomeoneElse
No it isn't. I already told you short project, lanczos, 480 4/3, letterbox, AVCHD with source material of 480 or lower resolution. What else could possibly affect stretching other than those? I have it set to NOT skip root menu, yes go to menu after a titleset completes, basically very little did I change in the settings from defaults other than using lanczos and 480 4/3. If you feel like trying it or if staff does, it's going to stretch it because it's already done it for me every time. Even the root menu seems stretched to me. And I forgot to also mention when playing a title if I press the menu button on my remote it does nothing, but in convertxtoDVD it would go back to the root menu.

Also I am not using any hardware encoding or decoding.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:49 pm
by SomeoneElse
I just tested yet again, this time with video from an actual dvd and using linear resizing, which I figured would make no difference, but just wanted to try, and sure enough yet again it was stretched when watching on the Blu-ray player.

Also my computer is VERY loud when using even just 2 conversions at the same time.

And what's with finalizing discs taking so long? It took longer to finalize my last disc than it took to actually burn the files onto it. On the "closing media" step of finalizing, it got to 100% AT LEAST 12 different times before it finished that step.

Apparently I have to convert only one at a time and take forever or my computer will explode. And I have to put my tv in 4:3 mode to force it to undo the stretching unless this is solved. :( This tv is one with gray bars so I also would have to go into the service menu to even change them to black (not regular menu). A big hassle plus I bet it's hurting video quality to stretch and unstretch it.

I did find out that the weird noise at the bottom of the picture happens in any resizing method I use and also it only shows up when fast forwarding or reversing, so that's at least better than if it had been there when playing!

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:28 am
by SomeoneElse
I kept burning and comparing discs for a long time to the point of having a headache and I just don't know what to think or do anymore. It's so frustrating trying to figure out which settings to use.

For instance, on one show I noticed noise outlining someone's arms. Well, it seemed more obvious when using laczos than when using linear. Unless I was imagining it. It's too hard to tell. And sometimes I thought one of those made details clearer than the other, but other times I thought the opposite. :(

I can't even decide which resolution to use because sometimes I think it's improved with HD resolution and sometimes I don't. I am so confused. It takes much more space for HD and the content is not HD originally so I probably should use SD and save space, but if HD truly works out better I would rather use the best picture.

Also, I pressed info when the disc menu was up. IT SAID 4:3. Then when PLAYING videos it said 16:9. So this is NOT my tv or player settings causing this, or it would also stretch the menu to 16:9, but it doesn't. For some reason when I use 4:3 settings in this program it's burning the menu at 4:3, but the video at 16:9.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:56 am
by JJ
I did a test just for this;

Converted 36 old TV episodes to 480p 4:3 in AVCHD, each about 24 minutes.

Result: folder with all episodes, total size 21Gb, each episode plays nicely in 4:3 and media info tells that they are 4:3.

Post log from your conversion, there is something odd and log is only thing that can reveal what it is!

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:48 pm
by SomeoneElse
Here is one example. This is a pretty long log because I ahd to keep canceling due to my computer making weird noises wqhen trying t convert multiple videos at once.

I don't know which bbcode to use. I have seen it look better than this.

Also, the input file in this log is not always the type I used. I have used avi and mp4 also I believe.

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:std_log='C:\ProgramData\VSO\ConvertXtoHD\1\Log\ConvertXtoHD 1_mainlog_.20150903.173311.046.log'
:library=false
:app_name=ConvertXToHD.exe
:app_version=1.3.0.20
:most_recent=first
:event_header='{time}  {type}'
:LongDateFormat=yyyy"-"mm"-"dd
:ShortDateFormat=dd mmm
:LongTimeFormat=hh":"nn":"ss"."zzz
:ShortTimeFormat=hh":"nn":"ss
:status=stopped
:group_indent=4

17:33:11.034  ------------    ***********ConvertXToHD.exe:5248 Log session stop after 1 hour(s) 1 minute(s) 6 second(s) 302 millisecond(s)************
17:32:28.345  Info            Removed segment: logical volume identifier - Titleset
                              ^^^Repeated 2 Times in 2 second(s) 807 millisecond(s)^^^
16:54:24.355  Info            Total size 5002 Mb., Target size Custom 100000 Mb., Occupation 5.00%
17:32:26.516  Info                Disc name: "AVCHD"
17:00:19.182  Info                Burned folder: "C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD", Min. media size 4.89 GB.
16:57:08.202  Info                Disc name: "Test"
16:54:24.611  Info                Burned folder: "C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset", Min. media size 4.89 GB.
16:54:24.315  Info                Conversion completed in 00:12:59
16:54:23.775  Info                "TITLE" menu built successfully
16:54:21.222  Info                H264 settings for stream #1: codec=h264,width=720,height=480,dar=4/3,user_b=12000000,bt=12000000,maxrate=15000000,threads=2,preset=superfast,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,slices=1,refs=5,bf=3,minrate=0,bufsize=12000000,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop+cgop-global_header,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,h264_level=4.1,b=12000000,keyint=30,aspect=8/9,pix_fmt=yuv420p
16:54:20.994  Info                Building TITLE menu
16:41:25.132  Info                    [ ] Loop playback
16:41:25.123  Info                    [ ] Play titles one after the other
16:41:25.114  Info                    [x] Don't create title menu for single video
16:41:25.106  Info                    [x] Return to title menu after titleset playback
16:41:25.097  Info                    [ ] Skip root menu initially
16:41:25.089  Info                    [ ] Auto-start playback
16:41:25.080  Info                    Template: Minimal, the most simple menu, contains 1 page(s)
16:41:25.080  Group               Blu-ray/AVCHD menu options
16:41:25.071  Info                    Output target size : Custom value (100000 MB)
16:41:25.063  Info                    Number of core(s) used for encoding : 3
16:41:25.054  Info                    Number of core(s) used for decoding : 3
16:41:25.046  Info                    [ ] Use 2 pass encoding
16:41:25.037  Info                    [ ] Use best video quality settings
16:41:25.029  Info                    [ ] Use hardware encoding (if possible)
16:41:25.020  Info                    [ ] Use hardware decoding (if possible)
16:41:25.011  Info                    Max simultaneous conversions: 1
16:41:25.011  Group               Advanced encoding options
16:54:20.886  ------------            *****************************************File encoded successfully: 00001.m2ts******************************************
16:54:20.872  Info                    Building  menus using template: Minimal, the most simple menu
16:54:20.829  Info                    video #1 - Processed video frames: 39367 (39373 frames encoded, 0 frames dropped, 7 frames duplicated)
16:47:51.978  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=3
16:47:51.961  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: linear (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:47:51.942  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:41:24.965  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:41:24.946  Group               ******************** Titleset #2 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00001.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:47:51.249  ------------            *****************************************File encoded successfully: 00000.m2ts******************************************
16:47:51.210  Info                    Building  menus using template: Minimal, the most simple menu
16:47:51.100  Info                    video #1 - Processed video frames: 39472 (39478 frames encoded, 0 frames dropped, 7 frames duplicated)
16:41:25.187  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=3
16:41:25.177  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: linear (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:41:25.168  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:41:24.930  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:41:24.910  Group               ******************** Titleset #1 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00000.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:41:24.877  Info                Encoding options: Short Projects
16:41:24.869  Info                Target size: 97.7 GB.
16:41:24.739  Info                Don't log FFMpeg log events
16:41:24.726  ------------        ***************************************************Burn settings end****************************************************
16:41:24.718  Info                Default speed selected: 4x
16:41:24.710  Info                [x] Delete vsomsl files after burn complete
16:41:24.702  Info                [x] Delete output folder after burn complete
16:41:24.694  Info                [ ] Don't eject disc or open output folder in explorer, after burn complete
16:41:24.686  Info                SAO setting: Automatic
16:41:24.675  Info                [x] Burn result to disk / as ISO file in working folder
16:41:24.665  ------------        **************************************************Burn settings begin***************************************************
16:41:24.665  Group           Encoding session started at 4:41:24 PM: 2 titleset(s) to encode -> Completed in 00:12:59|GK_CONVERT_SESSION|
16:41:21.864  Info            Removed segment: logical volume identifier - Titleset
16:41:13.460  Info            User requested cancellation
16:41:14.121  Info                Conversion cancelled after 00:00:45
16:40:29.241  Info                    [ ] Loop playback
16:40:29.233  Info                    [ ] Play titles one after the other
16:40:29.226  Info                    [x] Don't create title menu for single video
16:40:29.218  Info                    [x] Return to title menu after titleset playback
16:40:29.211  Info                    [ ] Skip root menu initially
16:40:29.204  Info                    [ ] Auto-start playback
16:40:29.197  Info                    Template: Minimal, the most simple menu, contains 1 page(s)
16:40:29.197  Group               Blu-ray/AVCHD menu options
16:40:29.190  Info                    Output target size : Custom value (100000 MB)
16:40:29.182  Info                    Number of core(s) used for encoding : 3
16:40:29.175  Info                    Number of core(s) used for decoding : 3
16:40:29.168  Info                    [ ] Use 2 pass encoding
16:40:29.161  Info                    [ ] Use best video quality settings
16:40:29.154  Info                    [ ] Use hardware encoding (if possible)
16:40:29.147  Info                    [ ] Use hardware decoding (if possible)
16:40:29.140  Info                    Max simultaneous conversions: 1
16:40:29.140  Group               Advanced encoding options
16:40:29.086  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:40:29.053  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:41:13.530  Warning                 File encoding cancelled by user: 00000.m2ts
16:40:29.293  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=3
16:40:29.284  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: linear (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:40:29.277  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:40:29.019  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:40:28.999  Group               ******************** Titleset #1 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00000.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:40:28.960  Info                Encoding options: Short Projects
16:40:28.954  Info                Target size: 97.7 GB.
16:40:28.818  Info                Don't log FFMpeg log events
16:40:28.811  ------------        ***************************************************Burn settings end****************************************************
16:40:28.804  Info                Default speed selected: 4x
16:40:28.797  Info                [x] Delete vsomsl files after burn complete
16:40:28.791  Info                [x] Delete output folder after burn complete
16:40:28.784  Info                [ ] Don't eject disc or open output folder in explorer, after burn complete
16:40:28.777  Info                SAO setting: Automatic
16:40:28.769  Info                [x] Burn result to disk / as ISO file in working folder
16:40:28.761  ------------        **************************************************Burn settings begin***************************************************
16:40:28.761  Group           Encoding session started at 4:40:28 PM: 3 titleset(s) to encode -> Cancelled after 00:00:45|GK_CONVERT_SESSION|
16:39:56.323  Info            User requested cancellation
16:39:57.126  Info                Conversion cancelled after 00:00:44
16:39:12.567  Info                    [ ] Loop playback
16:39:12.562  Info                    [ ] Play titles one after the other
16:39:12.556  Info                    [x] Don't create title menu for single video
16:39:12.551  Info                    [x] Return to title menu after titleset playback
16:39:12.545  Info                    [ ] Skip root menu initially
16:39:12.540  Info                    [ ] Auto-start playback
16:39:12.534  Info                    Template: Minimal, the most simple menu, contains 1 page(s)
16:39:12.534  Group               Blu-ray/AVCHD menu options
16:39:12.529  Info                    Output target size : Custom value (100000 MB)
16:39:12.523  Info                    Number of core(s) used for encoding : 3
16:39:12.518  Info                    Number of core(s) used for decoding : 3
16:39:12.513  Info                    [ ] Use 2 pass encoding
16:39:12.508  Info                    [ ] Use best video quality settings
16:39:12.502  Info                    [ ] Use hardware encoding (if possible)
16:39:12.496  Info                    [ ] Use hardware decoding (if possible)
16:39:12.491  Info                    Max simultaneous conversions: 2
16:39:12.491  Group               Advanced encoding options
16:39:12.439  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:39:56.546  Warning                 File encoding cancelled by user: 00001.m2ts
16:39:12.663  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=3
16:39:12.643  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: lanczos (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:39:12.611  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:39:12.407  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:39:12.388  Group               ******************** Titleset #2 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00001.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:39:56.411  Warning                 File encoding cancelled by user: 00000.m2ts
16:39:12.631  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=3
16:39:12.608  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: lanczos (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:39:12.602  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:39:12.374  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:39:12.355  Group               ******************** Titleset #1 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00000.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:39:12.315  Info                Encoding options: Short Projects
16:39:12.309  Info                Target size: 97.7 GB.
16:39:12.172  Info                Don't log FFMpeg log events
16:39:12.162  ------------        ***************************************************Burn settings end****************************************************
16:39:12.157  Info                Default speed selected: 4x
16:39:12.151  Info                [x] Delete vsomsl files after burn complete
16:39:12.145  Info                [x] Delete output folder after burn complete
16:39:12.139  Info                [ ] Don't eject disc or open output folder in explorer, after burn complete
16:39:12.133  Info                SAO setting: Automatic
16:39:12.127  Info                [x] Burn result to disk / as ISO file in working folder
16:39:12.121  ------------        **************************************************Burn settings begin***************************************************
16:39:12.121  Group           Encoding session started at 4:39:12 PM: 3 titleset(s) to encode -> Cancelled after 00:00:44|GK_CONVERT_SESSION|
16:38:59.469  Info            Removed segment: logical volume identifier - Titleset
                              ^^^Repeated 2 Times in 3 second(s) 515 millisecond(s)^^^
16:38:55.258  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:38:55.253  Group               Video streams
16:38:55.253  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:38:55.253  Group               Audio streams
16:38:55.253  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:38:54.885  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:38:54.880  Group               Video streams
16:38:54.880  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:38:54.880  Group               Audio streams
16:38:54.880  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:38:54.623  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:38:54.619  Group               Video streams
16:38:54.619  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:38:54.619  Group               Audio streams
16:38:54.619  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:38:54.393  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:38:54.387  Group               Video streams
16:38:54.387  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:38:54.387  Group               Audio streams
16:38:54.387  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:38:54.086  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:38:54.082  Group               Video streams
16:38:54.082  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:38:54.082  Group               Audio streams
16:38:54.082  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:37:21.150  Info            Removed segment: logical volume identifier - Titleset
                              ^^^Repeated 3 Times in 4 second(s) 878 millisecond(s)^^^
16:37:13.659  Info            User requested cancellation
16:37:15.034  Info                Conversion cancelled after 00:02:08
16:35:06.752  Info                    [ ] Loop playback
16:35:06.749  Info                    [ ] Play titles one after the other
16:35:06.747  Info                    [x] Don't create title menu for single video
16:35:06.744  Info                    [x] Return to title menu after titleset playback
16:35:06.741  Info                    [ ] Skip root menu initially
16:35:06.739  Info                    [ ] Auto-start playback
16:35:06.737  Info                    Template: Minimal, the most simple menu, contains 1 page(s)
16:35:06.737  Group               Blu-ray/AVCHD menu options
16:35:06.734  Info                    Output target size : Custom value (100000 MB)
16:35:06.732  Info                    Number of core(s) used for encoding : 4
16:35:06.730  Info                    Number of core(s) used for decoding : 4
16:35:06.727  Info                    [ ] Use 2 pass encoding
16:35:06.725  Info                    [ ] Use best video quality settings
16:35:06.723  Info                    [ ] Use hardware encoding (if possible)
16:35:06.720  Info                    [ ] Use hardware decoding (if possible)
16:35:06.717  Info                    Max simultaneous conversions: 4
16:35:06.717  Group               Advanced encoding options
16:37:14.373  Warning                 File encoding cancelled by user: 00002.m2ts
16:35:06.843  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=4
16:35:06.823  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: fast linear (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:35:06.818  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:35:06.670  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:35:06.650  Group               ******************** Titleset #3 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00002.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:37:14.191  Warning                 File encoding cancelled by user: 00001.m2ts
16:35:06.920  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=4
16:35:06.888  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: fast linear (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:35:06.825  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:35:06.640  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:35:06.621  Group               ******************** Titleset #2 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00001.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:37:13.993  Warning                 File encoding cancelled by user: 00000.m2ts
16:35:06.907  Info                    H264 settings for stream #1: preset=superfast,qmin=1,lmin=118,mblmin=118,b=29744000,bt=29744000,maxrate=15000000,minrate=0,codec=h264,width=720,height=480,pix_fmt=yuv420p,strict=normal,bluray=1,flags=+loop-global_header+cgop,weightp=none,aud=1,nal_hrd=vbr,b_pyramid=strict,coder=ac,h264_profile=high,dct8x8=1,dar=4/3,aspect=10/11,time_base=1001/30000,g=30,keyint=30,bf=3,refs=5,h264_level=4.1,bufsize=12000000,rc_init_occupancy=15000000,slices=1,colorprim=smpte170m,transfer=smpte170m,colormatrix=smpte170m,fake_interlaced=1,me_method=5,me_range=16,threads=4
16:35:06.872  ------------            +--> [audio #2 - RAW copy]
                                      +-[audio ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps]
                                      +--> [video #1 - h264 video, 720x480, yuv420p, 4x3, 29.97Fps, 29744 Kbps]
                                      +-[video mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps]
                                      Output file: C:\Users\Me\Documents\ConvertXtoHD\logical volume identifier - Titleset\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts (AVCHD (for optical disk))
                                      Input file: c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
                                      Video filters used: 
                                      - Output pixel format: YUV420P
                                      - DeInterlace filter: FFmpeg (used only if needed)
                                      - Scale filter: fast linear (vso). Fit method: letterbox (Padding: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0. Cropping: top: 0, bottom: 0, left: 0, right: 0)
16:35:06.820  Info                    Chapters to generate: 3
16:35:06.610  Info                    Added in conversion queue list...
16:35:06.567  Group               ******************** Titleset #1 - ~21 min. File: "logical volume identifier - Titleset" -> 00000.m2ts - AVCHD (for optical disk) ********************|GK_TITLESET|
16:35:06.447  Info                Encoding options: Short Projects
16:35:06.440  Info                Target size: 97.7 GB.
16:35:06.249  Info                Don't log FFMpeg log events
16:35:06.246  ------------        ***************************************************Burn settings end****************************************************
16:35:06.244  Info                Default speed selected: 4x
16:35:06.242  Info                [x] Delete vsomsl files after burn complete
16:35:06.240  Info                [x] Delete output folder after burn complete
16:35:06.237  Info                [ ] Don't eject disc or open output folder in explorer, after burn complete
16:35:06.235  Info                SAO setting: Automatic
16:35:06.233  Info                [x] Burn result to disk / as ISO file in working folder
16:35:06.231  ------------        **************************************************Burn settings begin***************************************************
16:35:06.231  Group           Encoding session started at 4:35:06 PM: 3 titleset(s) to encode -> Cancelled after 00:02:08|GK_CONVERT_SESSION|
16:34:39.043  Info            Removed segment: logical volume identifier - Titleset
                              ^^^Repeated 2 Times in 4 second(s) 674 millisecond(s)^^^
16:34:28.320  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:34:28.319  Group               Video streams
16:34:28.319  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:34:28.319  Group               Audio streams
16:34:28.319  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:34:27.964  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:34:27.963  Group               Video streams
16:34:27.963  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:34:27.963  Group               Audio streams
16:34:27.963  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:34:27.689  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:34:27.687  Group               Video streams
16:34:27.687  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:34:27.687  Group               Audio streams
16:34:27.687  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:34:27.519  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:34:27.499  Group               Video streams
16:34:27.499  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:34:27.499  Group               Audio streams
16:34:27.499  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:34:27.102  Info                    #1 mpeg2video 720x480 4:3 yuv420p, 29.97 fps, 7000 Kbps
16:34:27.101  Group               Video streams
16:34:27.101  Info                    #2 ac3 main audio 2 Ch., 48000 Hz, 256 Kbps - Unspecified
16:34:27.101  Group               Audio streams
16:34:27.101  Group           Added logical volume identifier - Titleset from DVD in c:\users\me\videos\transfers\logical volume identifier\video_ts\VIDEO_TS.IFO
16:34:04.201  Info                Build OK
16:34:04.198  Info                Source is OK
16:34:04.195  Info                Media loaded
16:34:03.942  Group           Loading structure
16:34:03.888  Group           Loading structure
16:31:29.016  Info            Menu templates loaded: 36
16:31:25.571  Info            Total Physical Memory : 3839 Mb.
                              
                              Available Physical Memory : 2232 Mb.
                              Memory Load  : 41%
                              Total Virtual Memory : 4095 Mb.
                              Available Virtual Memory : 3878 Mb.
                              Available extended Virtual Memory : 0 Mb.
                              Total Memory : 7676 Mb.
                              Available Memory : 5182 Mb.
16:31:25.571  Info            Processor AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor with 4 core(s) CPU
                              Pipeline(s): 4 - parallelize up to 4
                              Supported instruction set: MMX,ExMMX,3DNow!,Ex3DNow,sse,sse2 (slow),sse3,sse4A
16:31:25.562  Info            User OS: Windows 7 Home Premium, Microsoft Windows 7 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1)
                              file name : C:\Program Files (x86)\VSO\ConvertXtoHD\1\ConvertXToHD.exe
                              file version : 1.3.0.20
                              User language   : English (United States)
                              System language : English (United States)
16:31:25.266  Info            Loading templates from: "C:\ProgramData\VSO\ConvertXtoHD\1\templates"
16:31:25.260  ------------    ***************************ConvertXToHD.exe:5248 Log session start 2015-09-03 at 16:31:24.850***************************
17:27:51.283  Info                Disc ejected by user while parsing.
17:27:47.193  Info                Parsing disc ...
17:27:35.008  Info                WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
17:27:33.373  Info                Burning process completed successfully.
17:27:33.359  Info                Finalization Time 10m35s15ms - Total completion time 26m28s971ms
17:27:33.309  Info                Finalise: Finalisation completed
17:27:33.296  Info                Finalise: Close disc - Completed
17:17:01.459  Info                Finalise: Start Close media
17:17:01.446  Info                Finalise: Close track - Completed
17:16:58.901  Info                Finalise: Start Close track
17:16:58.870  Info                Finalise: Flush device cache - Completed
17:16:58.337  Info                Finalise: Flushing burner cache
17:16:58.324  Info                Write finished in 15m53s958ms - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 3.97
17:16:58.292  Info                Finalise: Start disc finalisation
17:01:04.967  Info                WRITING: Lead-in burning time required 614ms
17:01:04.350  Info                Write started 2562240 sectors to write
17:01:04.337  Info                Init DVD+R Dual Layer: Success
17:00:27.768  Info                Write speed set at x4.0 (5540 kB/s)
17:00:27.723  Info                Available write speed: x8.0 (11080 kB/s) *, x4.0 (5540 kB/s)
17:00:27.712  Info                Media ID: MKM-003-00
17:00:27.409  Info                Scanned files #23, folder #7 - total size 5245855892 b. (4.89 GB.)
17:00:27.403  Info                Inserted media type : dvd+r dual layer
17:00:27.388  Info                Volume ID: AVCHD
17:00:27.374  Info                Folder: C:\USERS\ME\DOCUMENTS\CONVERTXTOHD\LOGICAL VOLUME IDENTIFIER - TITLESET\AVCHD\
17:00:27.360  Info                Write started
17:00:26.318  Info                Blu-ray/AVCHD structure burn process started
17:00:21.284  Info                Writable disc dvd+r dual layer inserted. Ready to write
16:57:08.163  Info                Request to abort ISO creation process initiated...
16:54:28.820  Info                Writable disc dvd-r inserted. Ready to write
16:54:24.668  Info                Compatible media for write : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R, Blu-Ray-R, Blu-Ray-RE (V1), Blu-Ray-RE (V2)
16:54:24.667  Info                Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
16:54:24.667  Info                New Drive selected : [J] HL-DT-ST BD-RE  BE14NU40 1.00 (USB)
16:31:25.255  Info                2 writer(s) found.
16:31:25.198  Group           Burn engine events

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:48 pm
by JJ
Your log looks ok; almost like mine.
Minor differences, I had target on USB instead of BR disk, but format is the same.

What kind of TV are you using to watch? Flat or tube?
What settings are on BR player? (many of those automatically use 16:9 with ANY disc)

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:19 pm
by SomeoneElse
It doesn't put all discs at 16:9. Like I said, I have burned discs from convertxtoDVD and every one of them shows the proper 4:3. Also the menu from this one shows in 4:3 so that right there shows it doesn't always stretch to 16:9. I have the Blu-ray player upconvert to 1080p and then the tv is in dot by dot mode which means the exact aspect ratio the disc has it at.

Also, I don't have it set to Blu-ray, I have it set to AVCHD and burned on a regular dvd. But yes I chose for optical disc, not usb device.

Notice I also set custom size of almost 100GB, but surely that would not affect anything with aspect ratio.

So I am really stumped. And I really doubt I want to burn them in 720 or 1080 so if this isn't solved I have to force the tv into 4:3 mode if I burn them in 480 with no fix for this.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:29 pm
by SomeoneElse
what do I have to do to format a thumb drive where I can use that format of AVCHD? I could do that if you don't want to try an actual disc, then I could know if the "for optical drive" setting is what is causing the issue.

I am still worried that this program is not useable, as so many bug reports on here are very bad, not minor issues, but ones which stop you from even making a disc that works. I am tempted to burn a data disc instead and forget this. The only problem is a FEW files my player will end up not recognizing and also it freezes up when fast forwarding or reversing when using a file form a data disc. Otherwise I would just forget worrying with this program as it's going to take up way more discs than a data disc would and has all these problems.

In fact in some cases I could fit everything on 1 disc with a data disc that would take 4 discs at 480p with this program, let alone if I tried to use 720p or 1080p. And my computer sounds like it's going to blow up if I convert in 720 or 1080 so I am just about forced to use 480p. I may be tempted to only burn the most incompatible files with this program and sue a data disc for the rest because why use 4 times as many discs AND have a stretched picture when I can use a data disc? the ONLY advantage of this program, in those cases, would be that navigation of the files wont freeze as often.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:21 pm
by SomeoneElse
I tried it on a thumb drive now and it is stretched on that too. I know usually settings on a tv or player are to blame for this type of thing, but there's no way the menu would be 4:3 if that was the issue. Why would it make a menu properly be 4:3 and the titles not? That would not be settings on the tv or player or all would be stretched. The menu being 4:3 shows it's possible to read a 4:3 image on an AVCHD disc with this player.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:25 am
by SomeoneElse
At least I finally got the side masks on my kuro black. I have what's still the best tv/monitor there has ever been in many ways (pro-101fd), but they're a bit of a pain doing various things on in the service menu and FIANLLY I found where to change side masks to make them black instead of grey.

So now if they don't figure out my problem soon I will just give up and burn it with it stretched and out the kuro in stupid 4:3 mode. But I should not have to do that. The program should e getting this right rather than me have to use workarounds. And I am still worried that the stretching is done somewhere that affects the picture where putting in 4:3 still wont have the original quality. But I "guess" the problem is not in the encoding and so putting the tv in 4:3 I "think" would not harm the picture.

I just don't see how this happens to only me. It's giving me a headache dealing with this. And the problem with putting the tv in 4:3 other than being ANNOYIGN is then the MENU is squished. So I have to either have a squished menu or a stretched video! There is now ay that is a setting problem on my end, it's something being done wrong with the program somehow.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:46 am
by JJ
Your logic is a little bit off.
If nobody else gets this, and even you don't get it with every file, then it is either something on your settings or source files.

Can you find log from conversion that causes this problem?
If you remember what files cause it then you can convert only one or two and same should happen, then post log from that conversion.

Your player should have info about what format you can use on USB, some support only Fat32, and that is very limited format but should be enough
for this kind of tests as all files are less than 2Gb each. So format that thumb drive to Fat32 and simply copy conversion result there.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:22 am
by SomeoneElse
I already did the USB test, as mentioned earlier, and again it stretched.

Just because only I report this means nothing. Most bugs on here were only reported by one person and were found to indeed be bugs.

I have tried with several types of files. The file from a dvd, an avi, and a mp4. All three types stretched. Also, you can't blame the source. The settings in this say 480 4/3. It doesn't say "some sources wont work". The problem is the software if it is set to 4:3 and the result is really 16:9.

I have already said probably 5 times, the menu is in 4:3 and the movies are in 16:9. That proves it is not a setting on the player or tv! Any setting on there would cause BOTH the menu and the videos to do the same thing. When one is 4:3 and one is 16:9 it proves something went wrong with this program.

And really all that is happening is I am talking in circles on here and staff works different hours than I am awake many days, so it's just day after day of me waiting and the program not doing what it was set to do.

I have found PLENTY bugs in other types of software where the people on the sites claimed it was only me and it wasn't bugs and sure enough it was almost always proven to be bugs eventually.

And now I realized yet another problem if I just live with this and put the tv in 4:3 mode. That means I have to also zoom OUT to even see the full picture because 4:3 mode on the kuro cuts off a tiny bit of the top and bottom of the picture. So I would have to go through the hassle of changing both the tv zoom mode and the Blu-ray player zoom mode just to watch anything in close to the proper aspect ratio if this is not solved. Or burn in 720p which would take up much more space and my computer goes NUTS trying to convert in 720 or 1080, sounding like it's going to break it's so loud. Even in 480 lately it has made a lot of noise, but the higher the resolution setting the worse it sounds. So I am worried if I tried to burn a disc in 720 or 1080 my computer would break before it finishes a disc.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:08 pm
by JJ
Of course it can be a bug; but if it can not be reproduced then it can not be fixed!

I already tried to do what you did and I had no problems.
Can you test your result in some other system - just to be sure?

Or provide one file that converts wrong?

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:07 pm
by SomeoneElse
Only thing about providing a file is of course all shows would be copyrighted. I'[d have to figure out something to use that wouldn't be copyrighted just to be sure it;s ok.

I was trying it in my computer, but VLC wouldn't play it. Kind of weird that media players usually don't play avchds or blu-rays.

I am going to ask Oppo about it, too, but I bet they will say it's the program/disc, since the menu is not stretching.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:22 pm
by JJ
SomeoneElse wrote:Only thing about providing a file is of course all shows would be copyrighted. I'[d have to figure out something to use that wouldn't be copyrighted just to be sure it;s ok.
Sure. If it is file that is available then I can get it myself, just need the name.
But if they are from original discs then it is harder.
SomeoneElse wrote:I was trying it in my computer, but VLC wouldn't play it. Kind of weird that media players usually don't play avchds or blu-rays.
Yes it is. Some programs like PowerDVD are supposed to play those correctly.
SomeoneElse wrote:I am going to ask Oppo about it, too, but I bet they will say it's the program/disc, since the menu is not stretching.
Well.. you said that you checked settings, but some players do stretch to 16:9 if they are set to "auto" and material being played is not exactly 4:3.

I noticed in my logs that menu had this:
width=720,height=480,dar=4/3,(part cut),aspect=8/9
but actual movie had this:
width=720,height=480,(part cut),dar=4/3,aspect=10/11

This might be enough for some players to cause this, but more checks has to be made.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:23 pm
by SomeoneElse
I bet that is the problem.

I emailed them in my support email conversation and mentioned this. I see in my logs the same thing. Since the menu shows in 4:3 that almost certainly means if they change aspect to 8/9 for video it will solve the issue for me. I hope they will agree to change it... I hope they don't say it would cause some other problem. I wish I could somehow change it myself in my copy.

I wonder what exactly aspect is for. dar is display aspect ratio and is 4:3.

Anyway, my player is set to NOT stretch 4:3 images. So the problem is not the setting on my player. I just went through all player settings.

I also wonder if there is any reason to believe that it would be different than 10/11 if I choose blu-ray instead of AVCHD. I am assuming it is unlikely to change aspect so I dn't want to waste a disc trying, when it will likely make no difference.

Re: Encoding, Not Filling Discs, Etc...

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:53 am
by JJ
Well, this issue is not that simply.
According to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_aspect_ratio
VSO is doing it correctly.
720x480 4:3 should be in 10/11.

So question seems to be more - why do some players show it wrong?
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