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Thanks to the team for changing the thumbnail clip logic.

Attached is what a typical cartoon disk now look like. Rename from .log to .m2ts to view.

Classic Template
Note: I understand it's not supported to modify the templates so I'm not expecting any support but just in case you feel generous I thought I'd post anyway as I just have one or two things left to modify.

What I've done so far (all fairly straight forward):
- Set the font to verdana
- Change BG to a dark blue gradient via the png
- Modified some of the transitions to try to cut down the time for each page to visually complete

Transitions
I reduced the transitions time because once you start going through a few pages the player makes you wait until the intro transitions per page are complete before you can move the prompt on to the next page. I did it by changing intro_duration and outro_duration to 1 and increasing the main_duration to 28 so it's still a 30 sec clip. I haven't burnt a disc yet because I think this only deals with the video for the menu not the underlying code.

How can I remove some/all of the other transitions?
I think I can set tx_type=TX_SCENE_OUTRO => tx_type=TX_NONE but I'm not sure. I don't think that will stop the title animation from running on every page either.

Ideally I just want to menu page to change and play the video clips with no transition animation on the non-thumbnail items at all...

Title Centering
I also noticed the title is not centered though Align=MIDDLE_CENTER is set (I haven't changed this). You can see in the video attached. Maybe it's being thrown by the LeftMargin=4?

I've attached my current efforts for your enjoyment. Of you have any kind of simple docs on the template system I'm a pretty good coder of sorts and happy to share templates I build back with you if I ever manage to finish one!

Regards

Steph

ps. Is there a good blu-ray menu emulator out there? I haven't found a decent one yet - most crash or don't render the menu - and I don't like wasting discs.

Hello,

I am not familiar with these guides but they do exist and might have the answers you need:
http://forums.vso-software.fr/guide-how ... t6260.html
http://forums.vso-software.fr/guide-inc ... t6230.html
http://forums.vso-software.fr/notes-on- ... 10713.html

The most comprehensive menu template editing guide is http://forums.vso-software.fr/tattoo-s- ... 15694.html

If you want to eliminate the menu intro and outro completely,

1. Delete the intro_duration and outro_duration lines.

2. Delete all sections containing \Anim\ but not those ending with \Anim].

3. The lines below those ending in \Anim] specify the number of Anim items, change that to Count=0

4. Delete the tx_type=TX_SCENE_OUTRO lines in the \buttons\ sections.

Notes:

1. Step 2 is probably not necessary unless you want to clean the code up, but all other steps should be done.

2. The tx_type=TX_SCENE_OUTRO statements cause the program to write instructions to direct play to an outro segment which doesn't exist now, so they should be eliminated.

3. You can compare the cx2_8ch.ini and cx2_8ch_noanim.ini files for an example of what you need to do in case the instructions are not clear. I just noticed though that the tx_type=TX_SCENE_OUTRO lines have been removed in the cx2_8ch.ini file and need to be put back in, I will report.

PS: In lieu of a menu emulator, why not play your converted files on your computer before burning in order to save your discs?

Thanks for the advice and links claire and ckhouston.

I'll give it a shot, look like it's certainly been done before!

@ck.. I would like a decent emulator because I'm burning blu-rays. Dvd menus work just fine in MPC-HC and other players but it seems proper blu-ray menus don't work or are very very poorly supported. Most players just play the file one after another. I've been changing some of the sprites too so that I can overlay on top of the selected elements etc. but can't see these working without a burning a disc or using totalmediaplayer which sort of works but crashes frequently.

Thanks a lot for the help... I'm gogi to give that a shot towards the end of my day here.

Regards

Steph

Just posting back that worked perfectly..

Very snappy pages now.

~Steph

Glad it worked, thanks for letting us know.

Title Centering
I also noticed the title is not centered though Align=MIDDLE_CENTER is set (I haven't changed this). You can see in the video attached. Maybe it's being thrown by the LeftMargin=4?

Menus are laid out on a 720x576 pixel canvas with all dimensions in pixels.

That text alignment statement is for alignment within a text box that is defined for each menu text item. So the text box must be centered if you want the title centered. For example, change

[CXT\pages\Item0\blocks\Item1]
name=Title zone
Left=125
Top=32
Width=535
Height=78

[CXT\pages\Item0\blocks\Item1\Gfx\Item0]
name=page title
value=Classic menu title
customizable=TRUE
Location=ML_PAGE_TITLE
Height=78
Width=535
Style=title

to

[CXT\pages\Item0\blocks\Item1]
name=Title zone
Left=93
Top=32
Width=534
Height=78

[CXT\pages\Item0\blocks\Item1\Gfx\Item0]
name=page title
value=Classic menu title
customizable=TRUE
Location=ML_PAGE_TITLE
Height=78
Width=534
Style=title

Even better, much appreciated, ckhouston. It was kind of making me twitch begin offset from center by only a few px.

The menus seem really snappy now and cedirc's 2 Minute offset for the clips mean every title has a different looking clip.... kids can navigate visually now..

I'll make the changes, test the result then post the completed ini here for anyone to try out.

~Steph