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Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 3:20 am
by dbminter
I've got an MKV that absolutely will not load in CDX. "One or more files cannot be loaded. Make sure it is a valid media file." The MKV plays on my PC, but CXD will not load it. The MKV will not play on my Blu-Ray player which supports MKV. AVIDeMux will not convert it. Chokes on the audio channels saying they are incompatible. Any Video Converter only converts the first 30 some minutes, replacing the remaining hour with audio but solid black for video. VSO's UHD Converter does the same thing, although it replaces the solid black from Any Video Converter with a still image of the last video frame it was able to process.


So, I'm screwed. I've no idea what to do at this point because everything else that should work isn't, of course.


Thanks!

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 4:45 am
by JJ
Can you get any info out of that file?
What is video type, what is audio type?

MKV is a container, it can have almost anything inside and it seems that the file in question is not standard.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:07 pm
by Cougar_II
Hello,

To look at the info of a video, I play it in VLC Player and press <CTRL-J> and see the streams...

If I want way more info, I use this !

https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download

Provide us the media info.

I am curious, do you have a link where we can get this file ?
This way I can have a look at it, and/or upload it to VSO for a full analysis.

Just an idea, could it be a bad source file ?

Thanks...

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:10 pm
by Cougar_II
If you wish to upload it to VSO yourself, you can do it here !

Create a folder called something like "All VSO Software cannot convert this file"

Upload your video to their platform if you want: https://upload.vso-software.fr/
Username: VSO_users
Password: VSO_users

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 2:41 pm
by dbminter
The file in question was on the hard drive of a friend's son who died. He asked me to preserve the contents as much as I could and I found a file he apparently downloaded from somewhere. Don't know the origin of it beyond that and I can't provide a link. I can upload it, but it's like 1.15 GB. However, I don't mind upping it for analysis.


Don't know what specific metadata you're looking for, but here's everything I found I thought relevant about the properties of the file as returned by Media Player Classic - Home Cinema:

Type: Matroska

Video: AV01 1920x816 23.976fps [V: av1 main, yuv420p10le, 1920x816 [default]]
Audio: Opus 48000Hz 6ch 9216kbps [A: Japanese Surround [jpn] (opus, 48000 Hz, 5.1) [default]]
Audio: Opus 48000Hz 6ch 9216kbps [A: English Surround - 2016 FUNimation Blu-Ray [eng] (opus, 48000 Hz, 5.1)]
Audio: DD+ 48000Hz stereo 160kbps [A: English Stereo - 2014 FUNimation Theatrical [eng] (eac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 160 kb/s)]
Audio: Opus 48000Hz 6ch 9216kbps [A: English Surround - 2021 Amazon Prime [eng] (opus, 48000 Hz, 5.1)]
Subtitle: Advanced SubStation Alpha [S: Subtitles [eng] (ass) [default]]
Subtitle: Advanced SubStation Alpha [S: Signs & Songs [eng] (ass)]
Subtitle: UTF-8 [S: No subtitles]

General
Unique ID : 338959341309081612295378460827621705429 (0xFF0131CD1758E7D67C5D1D7D6B86C6D5)
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 1.17 GiB
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Overall bit rate : 1 751 kb/s
Frame rate : 23.976 FPS
Encoded date : 2023-09-09 16:21:31 UTC
Writing application : mkvmerge v79.0 ('Funeral Pyres') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.4.4 + libmatroska v1.7.1
Attachments : 9SALERNO.TTF / 26746.ttf / fansubBlock.ttf / FOT-MatElegProB-CP.ttf / FOT-MatisseElegantoProQ-EB.ttf / Francis.ttf / Francis_0.ttf / GANDHISANS-BOLD.OTF / GANDHISANS-BOLDITALIC.OTF / GLECB.TTF / jesaya free.ttf / KGThisIsNotGoodbye.ttf / KozGoPro-Heavy.ttf / KozMinPr6N-Bold-En.otf / Long Island.ttf / Marker SD.ttf / Officina_San_ITC_Medium.ttf

Video
ID : 1
Format : AV1
Format/Info : AOMedia Video 1
Format profile : Main@L4.0
Codec ID : V_AV1
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Bit rate : 850 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.023
Stream size : 581 MiB (49%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : Opus
Codec ID : A_OPUS
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Bit rate : 241 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C Lb Rb LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 50.000 FPS (960 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 165 MiB (14%)
Title : Japanese Surround
Language : Japanese
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : Opus
Codec ID : A_OPUS
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Bit rate : 236 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C Lb Rb LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 50.000 FPS (960 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 161 MiB (13%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID : A_EAC3
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 160 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 109 MiB (9%)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : No
Forced : No
Dialog Normalization : -31 dB
compr : -0.28 dB
dialnorm_Average : -31 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -31 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -31 dB

Audio #4
ID : 5
Format : Opus
Codec ID : A_OPUS
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Bit rate : 244 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C Lb Rb LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 50.000 FPS (960 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 167 MiB (14%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #1
ID : 6
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Duration : 1 h 34 min
Bit rate : 763 b/s
Frame rate : 1.120 FPS
Count of elements : 6376
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 530 KiB (0%)
Title : Subtitles
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text #2
ID : 7
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Duration : 1 h 2 min
Bit rate : 981 b/s
Frame rate : 1.322 FPS
Count of elements : 4973
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 451 KiB (0%)
Title : Signs & Songs
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Avant
00:00:05.380 : en:Part 01
00:00:19.602 : en:Part 02
00:00:25.942 : en:Part 03
00:03:15.320 : en:Part 04
00:05:03.636 : en:Part 05
00:09:00.373 : en:Part 06
00:10:35.259 : en:Part 07
00:12:48.184 : en:Part 08
00:16:52.011 : en:Part 09
00:20:27.226 : en:Part 10
00:24:53.074 : en:Part 11
00:26:57.449 : en:Part 12
00:28:57.694 : en:Part 13
00:32:46.214 : en:Part 14
00:34:24.645 : en:Part 15
00:36:25.808 : en:Part 16
00:37:34.752 : en:Part 17
00:41:14.555 : en:Part 18
00:41:54.428 : en:Part 19
00:42:30.839 : en:Part 20
00:44:25.704 : en:Part 21
00:45:48.287 : en:Part 22
00:48:02.296 : en:Part 23
00:50:15.387 : en:Part 24
00:52:56.089 : en:Part 25
00:55:53.099 : en:Part 26
00:58:54.906 : en:Part 27
01:00:42.472 : en:Part 28
01:00:51.105 : en:Part 29
01:04:31.492 : en:Part 30
01:08:38.322 : en:Part 31
01:11:55.394 : en:Part 32
01:14:07.943 : en:Part 33
01:17:26.558 : en:Part 34
01:20:10.847 : en:Part 35
01:23:31.172 : en:Part 36
01:26:00.864 : en:ED
01:30:23.960 : en:Next
01:35:02.154 : en:PV
01:35:32.101 : en:END

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 2:42 pm
by dbminter
I'm starting to think it's simply a poorly encoded file. Given where I found the file on the HD, it appears to have been downloaded. My experience has been like 50% of all downloaded containers have some problem with them. Most common being audio out of sync with video.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 2:51 pm
by JJ
Most likely bad file.
Very often groups create specialized version that work properly on their own system.
Audio or subtitle out of sync is very common, file works perfectly with their own player/codec.
Best option is to get better source file.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 2:57 pm
by dbminter
I'm uploading the file to All VSO Software cannot convert this file in the File repository, but I think that's going to be a non-starter. I've got like less than 20 Mb/S upload speed. I think I'll have to cancel this upload and just put it on a cloud and link it here.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 7:41 pm
by dbminter
Well, FileGator is a non-starter. After an hour, 0% had been uploaded, and it eventually stopped doing anything. It cut off the transfer itself. So, I'll have to up to a cloud and get back to you on that later.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:56 pm
by dbminter
MUCH better. Less than half an hour to upload to my cloud.


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing


The file is archived in a multi-part ZIP file split at the 100 MB mark to make for less likelihood of a bomb out during download requiring restarting all over again. ZIP created with 7-Zip.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 11:31 am
by Cougar_II
Hello,

VSO UHD v1.0.0.58 has no issues converting this file to H265 or H264

Video plays in VLC and I can see all streams

Video is VP9 and audio is Opus

Maybe ConvertXtoDVD hates those stream so if you are going to run it in ConverXtoDVD, maybe it needs a UHD Conversion to make it
Max 1080p / H264 / AC3 audio which will make this video compatible.

On a side note, you might lose all subtitles if you convert to H264 with UHD, I have a question (No seen yet) if this is a bug.
Converting to H265 with UHD keeps the subtitles.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:09 pm
by Cougar_II
I confirm that the converted H264 output of VSO UHD Converter WILL load on ConvertXtoDVD

I also confirm you lose the subtitles :(

I opened an official but (info) with VSO on this matter...

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:28 pm
by dbminter
Yes, UHD Converter converts the file and yes CXD will load the UHD Converter output, but the output by UHD Converter is NOT correct. Forward to approximately 40 minutes into the output and it's either solid black with audio or a still image with audio, I forget which.


At least it's not correct on my end.


Any Video Converter does something similar.


I, too, discovered UHD Converter does not preserve the subtitles.

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:41 pm
by eddie11013
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Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 2:22 pm
by Cougar_II
Forward to approximately 40 minutes into the output and it's either solid black with audio or a still image with audio, I forget which.
Oh I see now, I guess I missed those details if it was mentioned before.

I confirm, H264 or H265 conversion does have those issues passed 30+ minutes when the original seems to play 100% if I move forward.

I will open an official bug report and upload the file to VSO for analysis.

--> https://bugs.vso-software.fr/view.php?id=14377

Re: Cannot convert file at all

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 1:19 pm
by dbminter
Thanks for that!


I THINK I mentioned it had playback issues around 35 minutes after conversion, but I wouldn't go back just to check. :)


Yeah, the source file plays fine on a PC as far as I could tell through just scanning through it. But, it doesn't even load on my Blu-Ray standalone player which supports MKV container playback from flash drives.